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How to read Lynas radioactive monitor?

1 mSv/Hour = 1,000,000 nSv/Hour

The IAEA acceptable safety limit [on top of natural background radioactive] for radioactive exposure for public members is 1 mSv per year or 1,000,000 nSV per year.

Lynas’s radioactive counter is ranging from 100 to 200 nSv/Hour, these doses are natural background radioactive in Gebeng regardless there is Lynas rare earth plant or not.

I agree the counter reading in Gebeng is meaningless to laymen.

The correct way is to display a red line reading beside the actual reading. There should be an average reading for Gebeng after 10 months of monitoring. Let assume the number is 150 nSv/h. [Lynas can provide actual figure]

The red line reading is 150+114= 264 nSv/h

Only one place where you can shied off radioactive, that is in the COFFIN. Only dead man is safe from the background radioactive radiation. 

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JYT says:

A grim reminder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NqPi9h0bho

nkkhoo says:

Only one parliament seat for Green Australia, they only gains 8% of total votes in the election.

Why Green party is shun by Australians? Because they always talk rubbish like Himpunan Hijau in Malaysia.

Nicole says:

关丹莱纳斯稀土厂是全球最大稀土厂,但是其原料全来自5千200公里外的西澳,这点本身就不符合经济原理。此外,莱纳斯稀土厂声称该公司年盈利可达54亿,但是国阵政府却让它享有12年免税地位,这也完全违背我国的国家利益!

〝莱纳斯稀土厂的设立让大马赔了夫人又折兵,国阵政府的〝以民为本〞是否巳转型为以民为笨?〞

nkkhoo says:

Perwaja imports iron ore from Brazil, why not you also ask Perwaja move to Brazil.

Nicole says:

輻射廢料根本不再提煉(現在的技術成本上不行),他們將將以大量的Batu Kapur(CaCO3)/Lime Stone 和Acid Sulfuric(H2SO4)來稀釋Thorium 的ppm.

這所謂的加工是要矇騙儀器測試,根本不是清理掉輻射物質.請大家注意!,Acid 應該是由Malaysia Acid Work提供,Batu Kapur/LimeStone 呢? 

nkkhoo says:

What is wrong if Lynas can dilute WLP to meet the international radioactive standard for safe usage by human?

If you do not like it, don’t buy and use by-products made from WLP.

Don’t act like God to tell others what to do. This issue is no different with the homosexual issue. You don’t like it, don’t do it.

Green Perkasa is spreading lies about thorium, and this group is harmful as terrorists.

xiao xin sen says:

稀土原料vs稀土廢料
– 植建成

http://www.chinapress.com.my/node/376764

萊納斯董事經理馬沙爾,昨天在關丹會見媒體,“重頭戲”之一,就是他手捧著惡名昭彰的稀土,笑笑說:我的手並沒有穿洞吧!他還把稀土和在場的人“分享”,以證明稀土無害。

 一些網友看了這畫面后,滿肚子疑問:“稀土不是有輻射嗎?難道這位老兄拿普通的泥土來唬人?”非也!我相信馬沙爾手上的是真稀土,不過,那是輻射量低的“稀土原料”,而不是環保人士一直針對的“稀土廢料”。

 原料和廢料,一字之差,性質卻差九條街,就好像“食物”和“廢物”的差別,你口中吃進去的是食物,肛門排出來的是廢物;你會把食物捧在手上,但你敢把拉出來的廢物捧在手心嗎?

 同樣道理,關丹稀土廠一間提煉廠,每一年要吃下6萬5000噸稀土原料,生產2萬多噸的高純度稀土,估計會排出至少2萬噸的“廢料”,這些廢料,一部分是經過化合作用后,會產生高輻射的洐生品,如何處理這些棘手的廢料,才是重點。在場的記者,勇敢地點破馬沙爾的戲法,質疑他以原料代替廢料,有誤導之嫌,馬沙爾即怒斥:“你說什么,什么誤導?!”

搓破國王的新衣

 馬沙爾直腸直吐,倒是說出了一個公開的秘密:跟據國際公約,稀土廢料是不能運出國的。這句話,讓政府尷尬不已,廖中萊部長從6月22日起,幾乎一兩個月就會重複一次:“內閣的立場是,稀土廢料必須要運出國。”如今,馬沙爾搓破了這件國王的新衣。

 聯合國有一項《巴塞爾公約》,你有聽過嗎?其宗旨很簡單,就是禁止任何國家進行有害廢棄物的跨國運送,就算是買賣也不行,有毒廢料只能就地處理。151個國家簽署了公約,大馬是其中之一,締約國在1998年舉行的會員大會,就選在吉隆坡。

 在內閣會議上,衛生部、科學與工藝部、國際貿易與工業部,會忽略掉我國簽署過這么一則國際公約嗎?政府要回答這個問題,看來要比萊納斯處理稀土廢料,來得更嚴峻。

nkkhoo says:

Raw rare earth is never classified as radioactive material by IAEA.

WLP is a concentrated by-product with higher radioactive level, but it’s still within 1mSv per year limit.

Why the Green Perkasa hides the scientific fact about WLP?

I will hold the WLP with my bare hand with the condition Green Perkasa idiots must jump into Pahang river in nude.

Green Perkasa, take this challenge?

xiao xin sen says:

如果10 kgs 的稀土原料是0.6毫希辐射,那么1 ton (1000 kgs) 又会是多少毫希辐射,10 tons (10000 kgs) 又是多少。再来如果一天你中0.6毫希辐射,那么10年后是多少?50年后呢?很少吗?

可能他们会说有辐射的废料是埋在地底下的辐射不会散布,可是谁又敢保证?如果天灾发生?别跟我说天是不会发生的。难道你是神吗?再来我们的地球在改变。

马来西亚的位置本来是没那么多天灾的,也可能会变到很多天灾?

nkkhoo says:

If you do not know basic science, it’s better to shut up than showing your stupidity to the world again.

Radioactive exposure risk to human body is not 1+1=2 as you learn in the kindergarten.

IAEA experts have agreed that 0.2 mSv per year for direct expose to WLP.

Unless you want to be a donkey and stay inside the WLP pile illegally for fun, no innocent Malaysians will expose to extra 0.2 mSV per year from Lynas produced WLP.

Do you add up sunlight ultraviolet radiation strength and advice people do not taking sun bath in the Kuantan beach?

What not you also add up radioactive from the soil in Malaysia and concluded that Malaysia is not suitable for human being because the total radioactive strength is 10000000 Sv per year.

This kind of silliness is reflecting poor education standard in Malaysia.

My uneducated old mum may believe your new radioactive addictive theory and walk for 200 km to prove scientists are wrong. 🙂

xiao xin sen says:

如果废料运不出国外,叫廖中莱自己吃到完。

nkkhoo says:

He is only Minister said Lynas had promised to ship all wastes to overseas.

No companies in the world will ship wastes out from the host country. May be Liow can asked Malaysian companies in China and Indonesia ship back their industrial wastes to Malaysia. 🙂

XPDeeC says:

nk
dr looi now more a entrepreneur than scientist focusing on market development for his grape orchard. you should thank him enough to contribute his hypothesis in your forum.
more interesting if dr looi can share his expertise on how to make halal wine (remove alcohol content not at the expense of grape quality). There will be big market just like Takaful insurance cater for all communities.

nkkhoo says:

Keep personal assault on Dr. Looi to make Green Perkasa a saint.

Green movement in the Western world has received sluggish support due to madness and irrational of Green people.

Mr. No Buddy says:

According International Commission on Radiological Protection, human exposure to radio active acceptable level is 1mSv/year. So what is the tolerable level per hour or mSv/h or nSv/hr? Let divide 1mSv by 365days and 24hr,the answer is 0.000,114mSv/h or 114nSv/h. The reading at Kuantan Polis station reading is 146 to 155nSv/h. is 28% to 36% higher then ICRP guideline…( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sievert )
The above is a guideline given by ICRP based on 24hr and 365days exposure only.
For eg, 
For people only exposed 8 hr working and 5days week, the the acceptable or healthy level is higher or estimated at 480nSv/hr or higher depend on how many holidays or leave he or she taken. 
Note:
Some professional may claim that the cosmic radiation we human absorb is even higher, and they are right. But just to clarify the 1mSv/year is derived after taking consideration of our already exposure. It is a reading for additional exposure not from the natural source or environment.

Different person tolerant level is actually different. The reading above is just a conservetive guideline. However the risk is on individual. Green Perkasa is just not willing to take the risk. Take note that not all smoker die of cancer, but they are higher chances ONLY.

I am not professional in radio active or health related industry. All above information is extracted and derived from website stated above. I am just a concern average citizen. Hope the professional or scientist can help me to proof I am wrong ( or the ICRP is wrong ).
Most of all I wish the reading at the Polis Station is overstated!

nkkhoo says:

The average natural background radioactive for the world is already 2-3 mSv per year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Background_radiation

For my understanding 1mSv per year acceptable level is on top of the background level.

For worker in Lynas, IAEA recommended acceptable level is 10 mSv per year.

Dr. Looi, what do you think?

Janice says:

Satu lagi projek BN yang tipu rakyat!

Cannot wait to see Adnan cut his ears and jump to river.

nkkhoo says:

Green Perkasa is the one spreading false information about Lynas, not BN government.

Janice says:

BN sure put up statistics to tell you that Lynas is operating safely. People are more worried about mismanagement and accident due to human error that could prove to be catastrophic.

nkkhoo says:

Do you mean nuclear explosion? Mind you, Lynas is not a nuclear plant in any stanadard.

WLP or waste from Lynas plant is as safe as cement in your house. Its radioactive dose is 0.2 mSv per year or 1/10 of background level you suffered.

Radioactive exposure by sleeping with your husband who emit 0.29 mSv/year is worst than exposure to WLP.

My advice to Green Perkasa, don’t sleep with your wife or husband.

Just because BN government never tell you that the cement is radioactive as WLP or even more radioactive and you all feel false safe for living in the concrete houses.

Ignorance can either make you happy or sad. 🙂